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Category: | A sign, usually on the cycleway network, indicating a route for cycling.: Other (infrastructure-related) |
Tags: | competing, coppergate, discussion, exceptcycles, filteredpermeability, planter, problems, york |
Date time: | 11.02am, Thursday 8th September, 2022 |
Time line: | Earlier | Later |
Facing: | North east |
Added by: | rebba |
Copyright: | CC Attribution-Share Alike (by-sa) |
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Credit: | Rebba |
Area: | Haxby |
[UPDATE: December 2022: #177526] [Image taken 8.9.22] Coppergate (Nessgate/Clifford Street end), York. Context: #180531. The planter has been moved across towards the island. This means the gap to the right of it is too narrow for people on cycles to enter by. However, for people turning right from Clifford Street (not left from Nessgate) this means you are: (i) on a road wanting to make a right turn where the largest markings say, No right turn; (ii) on a road with a noticeable uphill; (iii) turning right at an angle across a road which has a further noticeable incline in the direction of travel; (iv) you may be doing it from a standstill – and aware of motor traffic building up behind you and having to trust that drivers behind will not try to squeeze by; (v) you will be doing it as fast as you can because the oncoming lane - Nessgate - is busy at all times including with large vehicles such as buses, and the other lane of Coppergate is also very busy including with taxis and buses, so you want to clear Clifford Street as soon as you can; BUT (iiv) you are now additionally competing for space at the entrance to Coppergate with people on cycles – including ‘York’ cycles – trikes, recumbents, cargo cycles… at that restricted space to the right of the planter… and you all have to be able to stop because there is a zebra immediately behind it.
I consider this new tweak - forcing all people on all designs and sizes of cycle to share the one space - adds stress and jeopardy to a piece of infra intended to support active travel… I still consider the planter needs to be centred in the opening but much shorter so right turners can use the space next to the central island and left turners have use of the kerb side area. I’d like to see this consulted on and will say so. Other images here today: #186046, #186047. Other images today: #186048, #186049, #186050, #186051, #186052, #186053, #186054, #186055.
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